62 409 2x4 Engine

[jeffschevelle]

What's the market value on a 1962 409/409 2x4 engine?

T0214QB, Complete and date matching from air cleaner to pan, pulleys (no fan) to crank flange (no bellhousing), including carbs and exhaust manifolds. Might also have the generator and brackets.

Together and on a stand, been sitting for decades. Looks like original paint. Looks good and clean under the valve covers. So assume rebuildable without any major problems.

Thanks!

[Too Many Projects]

These are the people you want to talk to, https://www.348-409.com/forum/ but if the exhaust manifolds are the correct 425 hp, they are probably worth almost 2k by themselves. Complete ?? 8-10k ??
I have a '65 block with '61 348 heads and intake that is a runner and I won't sell it for less than 5k.

[mprice]

I see 409 engines advertised generally from 12 to 20K. My experience has been if you want to actually sell it then the number needs to be around 6 for a rebuildable one and 10 or under for one already rebuilt. Generally speaking the buyers for an original setup is over 65 years old and aren't willing to drop crazy money for a 409.

[RPOLS3]

I would agree with Mick and Mitch. Lots of $15-20k ones out there but not sure if any of those actually sell. I think you have a good/valuable date - assuming it is an 068 casting?

FWIW - back in 2019-2020 time frame I was selling one (1963 dates) and had to part out a complete intake to pan with exh. manifolds (no carbs/no distributor) 409 as nobody had any interest in buying the whole assembly. It took about a year to sell everything and in total I got about $6,500. Surely prices have gone up since then but as Mick points out there is a limited audience for these any more.

If your assembly date was a month earlier I'd love to have it as a spare for our car.

[EZ Nova]

Jeff, the market for these is all over the place! When I bought my 409, 1964 409 425+Hp engine for my 1961 Pontiac, I paid less then $5,000 CANADIAN (that is currently 40% on exchange) back in 2015 or so. A guy had it for sale on the 348-409 site and was a well know engine back then. He was asking around $6,000 for it and it sat for a year. Mind you it had ported heads, stroker crank, solid AND hyd roller cam, and choice of dual 500 or 750 Edelbrock carbs, and only 9.0 to 1 compression. BUT still made 575Hp. It was a GRAT street engine. It went mid 10's in the 55 chev gasser, low 11 in my 1961 Pontiac, both with the solid roller and 750s. Before I bought it they had it in a 1962 Impala convert with the hyd roller and 500. That 100% stock chassis car went 12.20 street trim.

Seems those deals are very specific and not just big bucks. Someone need to HAVE that combo for it to be big buck. And if it's not fresh or needs work, those experienced guys are not everywhere and sometimes the parts are difficult to get or pricey.

Now pricing???? Is it a $6,000 deal? Not to me. I bought a complete, very strong running 409 for what, less then $4000 from air cleaner to pan including Balenger headers, MSD distributor and 750 Edelbrock carbs. I DID GET A GOOD DEAL as the seller couldn't get rid of it. Everyone on the site said it was an easy $10K US $$$ engine, but when it went for sale, he couldn't get 1/2 of that.

The manifolds???? I have an OG 1970 Olds W-30 intake on my 1970 W-30 convert clone. All over the Olds site they say $2,500 US EASY for original one. So I advertized mine for $2,000. Over a yr and only had 1 guy even talk to me about it???? So stuff is worth what someone pays you for it, or just site on it like I will with my W-30 intake.

Good Luck, John

[mprice]

It sounds like we are all saying the same thing. You can ask 15 to 20 like many do but if you are looking for buyers and not for penpals then you better be 5 to 6 for buildable reasonably complete or a little more if already built. I have a fresh rebuilt 1962 engine intake to oil pan standard bore Ross pistons ready to go thats kind of been for sale for about 10 years for 10K.